Thursday, October 02, 2008

OpenArena, CG Textures and BurningWell.Org

OpenArena 0.8.0 recently got unreleased, because the project administrator decided that some included textures by TRaK were not legally GPL-licensed.



Free as in freedom CG Textures? No. :(

So why do the CG Textures-based textures seem GPL-incompatible? Well, Marcel, CG Textures' administrator, wrote at least twice, that the textures on his website cannot be re-licensed under a free content license. Also the CG Textures license clearly states, that re-distribution of the textures and of derivate versions in texture form is prohibited.



The right to re-distribute is one of the pillars, on which free software, open source and free works stand. But it is not simple dogmatism which makes me agree with these definitions. When I create a piece of media for use in games, then I want to give others the ability to change it as easily as possible, so it fits their need. Because of this, it is vital that I am allowed to provide the source (the most raw/least edited form of the media) to them. This is not possible in the case of CG Textures. :(



However, TRaK has a permission to release his resulting textures under the GPL if he follows some conditions in creating these textures (which he did). These conditions only apply to TRaK, so the resulting textures are indeed free. Still his work is not to be included in OpenArena. I don't understand why.



A new community member named titi recently asked for a free texture reference image host and some of us recommended the public domain image gallery BurningWell.Org to him. He started uploading lots of files to it and even got permission to re-structure the gallery to optimize it for textures!



Hagish decided to set up a torrent tracker and to create a torrent of BurningWells' textures for easier downloading and for backup.



Although gallery, the system used by BurningWell.Org, might not be optimal for textures and although torrents are not perfect for sharing data that gets new additions frequently: there seems to be a bright future for free as in fancy pants freedom textures. :)

8 comments:

ElCuGo TK said...

Is it really necesary to keep feeding the flamefest? Was the whole first half of the post onjective to make leilei look bad?

One thing is the flaming in the forums but moving it to the blog only makes you and the community look bad.

I strongly suggest to delete or at least edit the first half of this post.

Charlie said...

I'm not sure I agree with the complaint comment.

Q is talking about a valid issue; how the licensing of art affects a Free Software project. On principle, leilei is correct to pull the 0.8 release until the textures are replaced.

Whilst there was some melodrama in the forums, I don't see a hint of it in this post (which simply details what happened in relation to OpenArena and has nothing to do with the personal issues brought up in the forums).

qubodup said...

I deleted some worthless comments, three of them were by me. There's a kind of discussion here.

Andrew said...

Forgetting the GPL / open source art for a moment..

If the textures can not be redistributed in texture form then can one not just zip them in an archive?

What's the point of cgtextures is you can't use the textures!?

qubodup said...

Andrew: I think the sense is that the textures be used only for uvmaps.

DragD said...

I don't see anything wrong with what qubodup said here or on the OA forums and yet he got ban there ...

Stephen J Sweeney said...

I was very pleased to hear this, after the attacks that Leilol made against Parallel Realities' games.

How does it feel now that the boot is on the other foot, eh?

Sometimes I really think the free vs Free argument gets way out of hand.

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